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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:57 pm    The War on Loudness Reply with quoteBack to top

This is an issue which is rising in discussion like a "do" or "don't". I am not a mastering engineer, but it's interesting to follow. Here's an article on the Rolling Stone website: http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/17777619/the_death_of_high_fidelity

Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war

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I normalise to 0db and that's it. The only thing I compress is the drum kit to get a punchier sound. So my CD's are probably quieter than those with dynamic range compression but if that means it don't stand out so be it. I'd rather have the dynamic range.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 8:02 pm    (No subject) Reply with quoteBack to top

http://www.stylusmagazine.com/articles/weekly_article/imperfect-sound-forever.htm

^ this is the best thing I've read on this issue.

It's terrible (overlimiting) it makes music sound like muzak.

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Normalizing to zero dB is absolutely okay, maybe applying some Waves L2 to it if it
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Waves L2/L3 is a very expensive plugin.
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Stephen, you're partly right but remember that not every listener has superb high-class sound system or direct, flat-characteristic monitoring system at home. IMHO even if it's not folky dance music but something that require more attention from listener, mastering should serve as a process ensuring the best sound reproduction both on mid-class hi-fi set and high-end sets. It's also a compromise between loudness and dynamics. Personally I hate flat-mastered records with every sound on maximum level almost like the sound on TV-spots. But from the other hand I don't like changing volume constantly during listenng - it deconcentrates me Smile.
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Stephen, you're partly right but remember that not every listener has superb high-class sound system or direct, flat-characteristic monitoring system at home. IMHO even if it's not folky dance music but something that require more attention from listener, mastering should serve as a process ensuring the best sound reproduction both on mid-class hi-fi set and high-end sets. It's also a compromise between loudness and dynamics. Personally I hate flat-mastered records with every sound on maximum level almost like the sound on TV-spots. But from the other hand I don't like changing volume constantly during listenng - it deconcentrates me Smile.


Yes, there is definitely some room for a happy compromise. In the end, it really depends on the nature of the recordings.

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Stephen, you're partly right but remember that not every listener has superb high-class sound system or direct, flat-characteristic monitoring system at home. IMHO even if it's not folky dance music but something that require more attention from listener, mastering should serve as a process ensuring the best sound reproduction both on mid-class hi-fi set and high-end sets.


This is exactly what a good mastering job should accomplish: It should sound good on any equipment. That

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You just need to check a visual display of both the uncompressed and the compressed / maximised audio files in Wavelab or ProTools. It
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