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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 11:55 am    Vangelis versus Ashra Reply with quoteBack to top



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"Earth" versus "New Age of Earth"

"My face in the rain"; the fourth track from the B side of Vangelis' 'debut' released in 1973 could have been an inspiration for Ashra's monumental "New Age of Earth" (1976). Not only the title 'refers' to the album of the Greek Master but it is striking how the music of this track 'precedes' Ashra's NAOE. If you ignore the vocal part and concentrate on the instrumental music you get the recipe and flavour for Ashra's 1976 masterpiece.



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 3:32 pm    (No subject) Reply with quoteBack to top

Interesting
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 11:34 am    (No subject) Reply with quoteBack to top

Controversial!

I love that Vangelis album, my favourite by him.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 8:17 pm    (No subject) Reply with quoteBack to top

« stevepalmer » wrote:
Controversial!

I love that Vangelis album, my favourite by him.


I agree, this album is timeless and remarkably authentic. I love the mix of traditional and 'state-of-the-art' electronic music

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:51 am    (No subject) Reply with quoteBack to top

Interesting indeed. I must confess that "Earth" is one of those Vangelis albums still missing in my collection.

However, heard it on several occasions along the road, but can't recall it in detail.

Possible that he provided the inspiration for Manuel (as he did for many). Then again, sometimes a lot of people come up with similar things around the same time on different places on the globe without a direct connection.

A case of Zeitgeist, maybe, or sometimes a question of the availability of technology...

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« BruecknerAmbient » wrote:

However, heard it on several occasions along the road, but can't recall it in detail.



Incredible! Very Happy

I don't think he ever did a better album.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:10 am    (No subject) Reply with quoteBack to top

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« BruecknerAmbient » wrote:

However, heard it on several occasions along the road, but can't recall it in detail.



Incredible! Very Happy

I don't think he ever did a better album.


OK, OK... I will investigate ASAP. Laughing

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:15 am    (No subject) Reply with quoteBack to top

HA - it has a hardrock intro... Shocked

Very nice though. I really don't seem to remember much of it. Listening right now...

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« stevepalmer » wrote:
« BruecknerAmbient » wrote:

However, heard it on several occasions along the road, but can't recall it in detail.



Incredible! Very Happy

I don't think he ever did a better album.


Don't think I've ever heard it. But in my defence I really do struggle with Vangelis, and every time I try a recommendation it stops me investigating further. It's been a while since my last try so I'll give this one a go.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:06 am    (No subject) Reply with quoteBack to top

If you love Greek synth-infused psychedelia with proper songs + keyboard solos etc... it's amazing. One of my all-time favourite albums.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 2:58 pm    (No subject) Reply with quoteBack to top

« redphil » wrote:


Don't think I've ever heard it. But in my defence I really do struggle with Vangelis, and every time I try a recommendation it stops me investigating further. It's been a while since my last try so I'll give this one a go.


I am like this also. I have only purchased one Vangelis album, the Odyssey compilation, any time I check out anything else I struggle to enjoy it.

However, enjoyed Bladerunner on Blu Ray recently, and if this is mentioned in the same breath as the mighty New Age Of Earth I will have to check this one out Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 3:15 pm    (No subject) Reply with quoteBack to top

There is no New age here as the year was 1973, I call the first ever ethno prog rock.
In his first 20 years (71-91) every album was vastly different from the previous ones, so one may like or dislike an album or a 5 year era but if we take Heaven & Hell there was nothing similar, symphonic yes but no other resemblance.
On the other hand, if Blade Runner is the "reference point" then might as well stick just to that as there is nothing like it before or after just as it would hard to nominate any soundtrack beating it

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 3:57 pm    (No subject) Reply with quoteBack to top

Yeah , that's the general public's 'problem' with Vangelis. I once recommended him to a friend who liked Antarctica that I was playing. The store he went to only had Invisible Connections in stock, so he bought it without listening. He still does not believe me if I ever recommend any particular vangelis album Wink

I quite fancy Earth. More rock oriented than his later stuff (in general that is Wink )

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 8:28 pm    (No subject) Reply with quoteBack to top

Well, actually the very fact that Vangelis is so multi-faced makes me admire him even more (...as being "ecclectic" is a virtue anyway, in my book).

Still, I think on most albums You can recognize his handwriting, which makes his achievements even bigger, I think.

There are a few albums by him I don't particularily dig (too close to kitsch), and a few others that are mixed (too close to routine), however compared to the wealth of masterpieces that remain, this seems completly insignificant to me...

That said, I still need to realize the resemblance in "New Age of Earth" - actually, I'm going to listen in direct comparison right now while I'm doing a little, erm, online office work (like posting important declarations like this one).

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 8:48 pm    (No subject) Reply with quoteBack to top

Well, have listened twice now, and maybe I'm dull, deaph and ignorant, but I wouldn't say that there is such a striking similarity. If at all, I can see some vague parallels in the instrumental part of "My Face in the Rain" and "Ocean of Tenderness", however I think there most be other similar mellow atmospheric tracks based on long organ chords (some on earlier Ashra Tempel albums, if I'm not mistaken).

However, a good reason to give both albums a close listen, which is rewarding anyway. To me, they are two masterpieces, each in it's own right...

P.S. Interesting that "Earth" had Vangelis family name on the cover, btw.

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