Ian Boddy talks about "Time" in Music (EMP # 2)

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Posted: 15.01.2010 - 23:00  ·  #25
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Posted: 16.01.2010 - 00:04  ·  #26
As far as I know "the Beatles" haven't released anything lately, 2 out 4 are dead, remember. :roll:
It's the "record company" that rereleases everything, big money you know.
But at least the "big" record companies offer us a decent product.
All those download companies just want to cash in, they just don't care what happens on the other end of the downstream. :twisted:
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Posted: 16.01.2010 - 00:10  ·  #27
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Can anybody answer me this. Are cdr's any likely to last any longer than they were when they were first sold? say ten years ago. I have fair few cdr's, not copies, but releases such as the original cutted scenes by rainbow serpent, which I bought from SMD, which are not just 60 minutes of hiss. This is not a dig at SMD/musiczeit, just a query really, as I know nowadays you can back a cdr up onto a computer, but for me these were pre computer days. If they are going to deteriate, it just seems wrong to sell them for as much. Mind you in the late 90's we were paying £15 for a cdr Ouch!
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Burn baby burn, burn them to any backup you like just save your gems.
Any CD-R, no matter what they tell you, expires within 10 years.
A tip, preserved in darkness they will "live" longer.
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Posted: 16.01.2010 - 00:45  ·  #28
-CDr's-
I have too many 2-10 years old CDr's with "rare" music, all purchased, independent releases no longer playing, skipping or audio noisy.
True, new technology might last longer but I won't go through another 10 year cycle to find out. So I no longer buy CDr release, full stop.

This is where lossless downloads are a safer bet, saved on Raid1 drives, they'll be there for a long time.
I'll chase a CD release forever, if it exists, but I'll take a flac download over a CDr every time.
My suggestion, get dbpoweamp which is more persistent than EAC and save what's left of those CDr's.
And don't buy anymore.
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Posted: 16.01.2010 - 01:17  ·  #29
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As far as I know "the Beatles" haven't released anything lately, 2 out 4 are dead, remember. :roll:


*falls off chair*

Holy s**t, When did this happen?! :shock:

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It's the "record company" that rereleases everything, big money you know.


Boo! Hiss!

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But at least the "big" record companies offer us a decent product.


And engage in notorious price fixing scandals, but never mind.

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All those download companies just want to cash in, they just don't care what happens on the other end of the downstream. :twisted:


Too true. I had a rep from Polydor on my doorstep only last night, wanting to make sure my CD collection was in good condition.
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Posted: 16.01.2010 - 01:32  ·  #30
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Improve Musiczeit ???

Well then offer CD-R's as well, it's the same shit as a download, but I don't have to spend so much time in getting the music from pc to a disc


Well, this can't work, can it?

At the end of the day any data is a file, be it from CDr, download or CD.

It's like telling iTunes store to sell CDr's, and if they did, the next problem will be the extra packaging/postage cost...

For me MZ works bloody well - I saw Shreeve's Zoom & Boddy Trinity on the Portal, within 2 hours I had them, same for almost 200 flacs I got so far.
Nothing beats that.
The main thing is we all know what we buy upfront from MZ.

As for flac/wav costing the same as mp3 it is not fare asking, the files are 5-10 times bigger and server storage is not free.
Beatport, Junodownload, etc. all have a premium for "wav handling" which is fare.
No point comparing sites selling other types of music, this is pure EM here.

Should a 24 bit album sell for the same as an mp3, it's only data anyway, but my ISP keeps track of my volume traffic...there is always a premium to pay somewhere.

For all the advice on how it should be done, why not open your own facility, maybe do a survey first on how much people are willing to pay & 4 what.
We'll try to support it if the service is good.

I thought of doing it but don't have the balls.
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Posted: 16.01.2010 - 09:06  ·  #31
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Too true. I had a rep from Polydor on my doorstep only last night, wanting to make sure my CD collection was in good condition.


Yup, the EMI rep was round at mine the other week defending their tactics that led me to buy the same Genesis albums at least half a dozen times over the years. We also chewed the cud about my Virgin TD collection, spoke about The Keep on vinyl etc.

Small companies like ourselves just can't match that sort of personal service.
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Posted: 16.01.2010 - 09:06  ·  #32
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My suggestion, get dbpoweamp which is more persistent than EAC and save what's left of those CDr's.
And don't buy anymore.


EAC is very fussy because of the secure rip. It is my product of choice for ripping valid discs, but I agree any CDs/CDRs that are "going south" it can chew on for hours, better to use something else such as dbpoweramp or audiograbber.

I much prefer getting the original .WAV files anyway from an artist. Then you have a bit-for-bit copy of what they consider the finished article. A CD/CDR is not.
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