Rediscovering music that disappeared into oblivion

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· Posted: 14.03.2014 - 11:55 · #1

Hi all,

The last 1,5 years or so I started reviewing quite a bit of old(er) and unknown releases on my site along the ongoing string of new E-music;

I for one think resurfacing and rediscovering them while travelling back in time is fun to do, as there are many worthy works that seem to have "vanished" as the years went on, such as Diatonis - Landscape of a Dream, David Tollefson - New Eyes on the Universe, Pascal Languirand - De Harmonia Universalia (of which the review is almost done) or the output by the sadly deceased A Produce, Ruben Garcia...

So asked myself what re-discoveries of obscure and gem-nature others might have made, reviving these goodies connected to some good old memories, stories..
Just my 2 cents in those keeping memories alive.

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· Posted: 14.03.2014 - 14:19 · #2

I fear most old electronica I know belongs not really to the obscure variety.

However, just a few minutes ago I incidentally stumbled upon this here, a long track (or is it an album?) by some S. Ramses I never heard of before, apparently from 1978 - and quite a nice listen, too - like a slightly darker version of Hoenig's "Departure from the Northern Wasteland" in places...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3K0UOKOdDvE

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A French musician, apparently...

p://www.discogs.com/S-Ramses-Secret/release/1323611

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· Posted: 14.03.2014 - 16:14 · #3

Some reviews of Daniel Biry (RIP) would be nice.

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· Posted: 14.03.2014 - 16:50 · #4

stupid forum won't let me quote, so Bruecknerambient said: "apparently from 1978 - and quite a nice listen, too - like a slightly darker version of Hoenig's "Departure from the Northern Wasteland" in places... "

I don't hear any of that, but what i do hear is the 3 note sequence from the beginning of Ricochet part-1 @ 10:44

Another french synthesist we don't hear about is Zanov (Pierre Zalkazanov)

Green Ray album from 1976
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVWrQ-U4AaM

Moebius 256 301 album from 1977
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCs2wJBMTv4

In Course Of Time album from 1982
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdG6tf3456o

Looks like he took ideas from Jean-Michel Jarre, Klaus Schulze & Tangerine Dream on these 3 albums.

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· Posted: 14.03.2014 - 17:28 · #5

Hi all

There is some evidence that Zanov and S. Ramses were in fact the same person, some kind of impersonation of the french producer Alain Gross, since he was producer of both artists. So Zanov and S. Ramses would be only psedonyms. Musically are also quite similar. I don't know what to believe. It's worth investigating.

Here you have more intriguing information.

http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?artist=Zanov

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· Posted: 14.03.2014 - 17:33 · #6

P.P.S. This seems to be the same musician...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVWrQ-U4AaM

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· Posted: 14.03.2014 - 19:27 · #7

Quote by Syn

[...] Another french synthesist we don't hear about is Zanov (Pierre Zalkazanov) [...]

Zanov would have come to my mind as well. Nice stuff, especially "Moebius" and "Course of Time".

Not sure about the Alain Gross pseudonyme, though -- some people have met Zanov in the past, and according to them, that´s his real name. Got in touch with him once via youtube (Myspace?) but never heard back from him.

The Ramses stuff does not at all share any similarities with Hoenig... in fact it sounds like aimless noodlings on a Korg PE-2000 (which would have been nice in my book twenty years ago...). Might as well have been some of those endless Kistenmacher work-outs from the late 1980s.

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· Posted: 14.03.2014 - 22:00 · #8

Quote by Syn

Bruecknerambient said: "apparently from 1978 - and quite a nice listen, too - like a slightly darker version of Hoenig's "Departure from the Northern Wasteland" in places... "

I don't hear any of that, but what i do hear is the 3 note sequence from the beginning of Ricochet part-1 @ 10:44

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The Ramses stuff does not at all share any similarities with Hoenig...

Well, it was just playing while I was typing, and at that moment I it just reminded me (note I wrote: in places). That was shortly before half way in, I think. But anyway - I quite enjoyed it, even if it was just...

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(...) aimless noodlings on a Korg PE-2000

...after all I'm a Schulze fan.

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Looks like he took ideas from Jean-Michel Jarre, Klaus Schulze & Tangerine Dream on these 3 albums.

I think so. Then again, there weren't too many other possible inspirations around in this field, at that time, were they...?

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