-The intrinsic value of music-

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Posted: 30.06.2007 - 15:54  ·  #1
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Posted: 30.06.2007 - 16:36  ·  #2
Well said, Max.
As a guy from the same age I share a lot of the things you describe and feel. Recently I also bought a very good recordplayer after a very long and rather exhausting search, also as I liked to revite my vinyls which I never sold.

Emotion in music means a lot to me, and for quite some records I did a lot of troubles getting them, which makes me very attached to them.
For nowadays generation, music is something that comes from an I-Pod or een Mp3 player, which is as normal as having that music on all the time, which also seems to apply for the cell phone...

I know the world is changing & I accept that, but all these things also make it rather flat and emotionless to my modest opinion; I also think its also a typical sign of a loy of young people annoying themselves to death.
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Posted: 30.06.2007 - 16:49  ·  #3
Well, I wouldn't know about the vinyls' superiority, having spent my youth hating clicks and pops and dust and the degeneration of sound at every further spin and waiting and hoping for something to come out that didn't have all those flaws that were always insufferable for me. Making music myself, I know that when I hear it on CDr I can hear no difference whatsoever between what I played and what comes out of the disc. So it seems just more likely to me that vinyls just ADD something to the sound, kind of like an aural exciter or something, rather than being a more faithful reproduction of the original sound.
That said, I thoroughly agree with you regarding the HORROR of seeing how young people today give no value nor meaning to anything at all (both material and, even worse, non material), as they can have anything so easily and with no effort...
I guess I probably have a grumpy old man inside of me, too (I'll turn 43 this year), but I still think that if you get something too easily, that will never have any value at all for you, or at least very little.
Regarding music, they have so much of it (and mostly illegal, as moral values are definitely going out of the window, too) that they just do not stop to really listen to it, they give themselves no time to love it. They listen to the first 15 seconds of a track and decide whether they like it or not, they don't even listen to the whole track! If they don't like it, they erase it, if they like it they will listen to it 3 or 4 times and move on to yet another one of the 2786546723839764 tracks they have downloaded.
When we finally managed to buy an album, we listened to it tens of times, we slowly discovered that even the tracks we didn't like at first had something to say. We got to understand it, to love it.
That doesn't happen anymore, all is just quantity, emotions are a thing of the past. What is really scary is that the blank, emotionless look on the faces of the girls you saw, is very often equally blank in the souls of young people today. Thank god for the few exceptions.
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Posted: 30.06.2007 - 17:02  ·  #4
So true :!:

I'm a good ten years older than you and as a teenager grew up buying vinyl records. A record was a precious item - since it cost, in reletive terms, a lot of money.

CD's are OK - the lack of decent size covers annoys me at times, but the fact that I can play them in my car makes them useful.

Mp3's are OK for what they are - an easy way of giving your music away or as demo's or samplers of albums but I would'nt pay for them off itunes.
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Posted: 30.06.2007 - 17:19  ·  #5
41 Max, your only cutting your teeth, how about those of us that were weaned on t.d. during the early seventies!, yer only a youngster. Nice article but what's an mp3?ha ha
You are allowed to look at the younger female, and its sometimes very nice but it can play havoc with your heart! :roll: :roll:
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Posted: 30.06.2007 - 17:36  ·  #6
well I am 51 and had all those vinyl records back in time.

the greatest positive thing about that is; You where not as fast drunk as today.

now you load the media player and you can have days music non stop.
in history you have to change every 20 minutes the record, so you were away from the beer!

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Posted: 30.06.2007 - 17:55  ·  #7
Soulless music for a soulless generation. That's what the mainstream record companies are producing. I've seen the blank stare of people listening to cookie cutter music on the bus as well. (As a side note, it's great to hear someone who takes the bus to work rather than driving)
I've spoken to people about how really good music can move me to tears, and they just don't get it. They assume that a given track is "really good" because it has a catchy beat or hook. They don't understand that music can be SO much more, that it can hold so much emotion.

I enjoyed reading your piece.
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Posted: 30.06.2007 - 18:02  ·  #8
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I have a great dislike of that commercial Trance and R&B stuff that gets in the charts in the UK and all sound the same - you can't spot the artist, there's no individulism - it could be absolutely anyone.
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